He must steal that energy from the theistic power plant that he ridicules, misrepresents, and claims it doesn’t exist. where nothing can be added or subtracted from the 'specimen'. A common argument from atheists and skeptics is that if all things need a cause, then God must also need a cause. In conclusion, something could come from nothing but equally not become at all. When this question is asked it is usually in regard to the origin of our universe. It is the be all and end all of existence. Discussion in 'Exploring Christianity' started by Cieza, Nov 30, 2011. What is the void? That's something; that's not nothing." But Carrier replied to my point with this statement: Oh yes, "out of nothing, nothing comes" is another one. You can conjure particles from a vacuum under the right conditions. Between atoms is a void of nothing. Atomists (like Democritus) believed that motion was possible. If it were, it would cease to be nothing and become something. ((Ian Hutchinson, “James Clerk Maxwell and the Christian Proposition”: http://silas.psfc.mit.edu/Maxwell/)). So now we have established that something can come from nothing. In English, this means that if there is nonexistence (nothing) between two atoms, then logically those two atoms must be touching, as there is nothing separating them. Any answer that solves this problem for god can probably also just … And this problem goes on infinitely. 0. "In Stephen Hawking’s new book The Grand Design, he says that because of the law of gravity, the universe can and will create itself out of nothing. Believe it or not there are some atheists who actually think nothing can do something. If you can't get something from nothing, then why do you think you can go on to argue the next step? BUT I like to point out, IF nothing comes from nothing where did God get the material he needed to create things? First, that’s a great Sci-Fi book concept, and I thought of it. We can custom-write anything as well! Nothing comes from nothing is a philosophical dictum first argued by Parmenides. Another point that can be brought up is that if one wishes to state as fact that “Something cannot come from nothing,” they must actually prove this to be the case, the Burden of Proof lies on the one making the claim. Plants grew, adapted, and expanded just like humans do on earth. This is particularly true when discussing the concept of nothing, and what ends up being caught is that because of the limitations of language, we always talk about things as though they are objects. It is associated with ancient Greek cosmology, such as is presented not just in the works of Homer and Hesiod, but also in virtually every internal system: there is no break in-between a world that did not exist and one that did, since it could not be created ex nihilo in the first place. And to go from that next halfway point to the destination you must again go half way. An idea can come from nothing. Then we could go back in time (because we’re super smart and can do that) and create the universe. It is the be all and end all of existence. Does this mean that love, compassion, morality, and a whole host of human emotions are nothing but mathematics? For all anyone can tell, it is possible for something to come from nothing. Like Reply Challenge. I was searching for an old copy of a popular science magazine that had a small sentence in a history of 20th century scientists article. Dr. Krauss is engaged in some evolutionary sleight of hand. A vacuum might seem like empty space, but scientists have discovered a new way to seemingly get something from that nothingness, such as light. ((Krauss, A Universe from Nothing, xiii.)). Pushkin October 19, 2002, 12:36pm #1. No one has ever seen a law of physics. 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